dd #28 | Integrity & Leaving 'the Org': A Veteran Teacher Chimes In (From The UK) | Fiona Winter"My integrity is about not supporting an organization that I no longer felt was worthy. Not the modality necessarily, but the organization and the way it treated people. I didn't want to be seen as being associated with that." - Fiona WinterFiona Winter joins Tracy & I via Zoom from Wales... for a conversation about her 40+ years of teaching...
"It's not my job to protect people who are doing harm." - Lucy Pagedd #27 | Narcissists No More - kid gloves, codependency, & divorcing cult dynamics | Lucy Page - Part 2 of 2This week, we're back with Part 2 of our conversation with Lucy Page & here's where we go in the second half: We take a closer look at the culty commonalities between 'the Org' and the Tony Robbins training environment. Lucy shares how divorce from an abusive...
dd #26 | Power & Accountability - the 'Org', Tony Robbins, & the no-victims narrative | Lucy Page - Part 1 of 2This week's convo is dropping one day later than scheduled.... but it just so happens to be right on time given a recent release on the main feed. If you missed it, Episode 59 is a must-hear deep dive, because it speaks to the heart of this series... and it contextualizes where we go in this next, two-part conversation.Lucy Page...
dd #25 | Spirituality vs. Pseudoscience & how do we tell the diff? | Barb Wesson - Part 2 of 2I really loved this conversation!If you're a life-long seeker like me, you won't want to miss the second half of our conversation with Dr. Barb Wesson. Part 1 dropped last week, so be sure to circle back if you missed it.In Part 2 we grapple with loads of questions, including: What happens when spirituality gets hijacked? How do we make meaning...
dd #24 | Railing Against Reverence: Spirituality (w/o the dogma), Barb Wesson - Part 1 of 2This week, Barb Wesson joins the pod to help us separate spirituality from culty dogmatics. It's a timely conversation for yours truly, as I've been struggling mightily to disentangle the two for a good long while.Both former trainers at 'the Org', Barb & Tracy go way back... so we have a lot of fun in this two-part conversation. The three of us share...
dd #23 | Running w/o Running: Memory Gaps, Dissociation, & Submissive StatesThis week's drop is a longer-than-usual episode that comes with a content warning. If you find open discussion of trauma responses triggering, you may want to skip this one. Tracy & I discuss our personal history with dissociative states as a lead-in to what cult experts have to say about them. I read aloud from the work of Janja Lalich, Robert Jay Lifton, &...
dd #22 | Healthy vs. Ideal: The 'Joy' of (unfiltered) self-expressionIn this convo, Monica & I keep the conversation going (see dd #21) and end up laughing our asses off... while posing an important question to you:What were you looking for when you joined the Org and how are you now filling those needs outside of the group?PLEASE DROP YOUR ANSWERS IN THE COMMENT FEED!& listen in if you wanna; here's where we go in this episode: How...
dd #21 | A Humble-Pie Reminder re: Scope of PracticeMonica Welty & I exchange text messages from time to time, and a couple of weeks ago we were on fire... sending audio messages back and forth while laughing our arrogant and indoctrinated asses off.We'd been listening to episodes of the We Can Do Hard Things podcast. Specifically, two episodes - Don't Tell Glennon To Love Her Body and a follow-up to it with Dr. Hillary McBride... and we had...
Part 2 | Making Room: Inclusivity & True Belonging w/ Susan McCulleyHere's the second half of our two-part conversation with Susan McCulley where we continue with an inquiry into how we might do movement/fitness differently.Topics covered in part two include: Honoring 'the practice' and how this can be a smokescreen for deference to leaders or the need for personal validation. How we support the individuated experience, including making room...
Part 1 | Moving On: Alternatives to 'Cult' Fitness w/ Susan McCulleyThis week and next, former Org instructor Susan McCulley joins Tracy & I for a deconstruction of cult fitness norms. Our conversation centers around the question:How can we do movement/fitness differently?In the first episode in a two-part conversation, we: Critically examine fitness norms (whitewashed aesthetics, detox culture, perfectionism, ableism) and explore what it...