Kicking off a new short-form series on reinventing leadership, I sit down with Dr. Suze Wilson, an associate professor at Massey University in New Zealand. She and I discuss the history and significance of critical theory as a tool in understanding and transforming leadership dynamics to foster greater inclusivity and equity. Suze shares a bit about her background and then summarizes her doctoral work on the evolution of leadership theories from trait theory to transformational leadership. She critiques the magical and often unrealistic expectations placed on leaders, particularly highlighting the danger of overlooking power dynamics in modern contexts. The conversation also explores the impact of political trends, particularly the rise of Trumpism, on global leadership norms. Toward the end of the episode, Suze emphasizes pragmatic approaches to fostering healthier leadership practices, referencing New Zealand’s former Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, as an illustrative example. The episode concludes with reflections on hope and collective agency in driving social change.
Dr. Suze Wilson is a leadership scholar and senior lecturer at Massey University, Auckland, Aotearoa, New Zealand. Her research examines issues of power, identity, gender, ethics, discourse, practice, context, and crisis in relation to leadership and its development. Her doctoral thesis won the 2014 Fredric M. Jablin Doctoral Dissertation Award, given by the ILA in partnership with the Jepson School of Leadership Studies; she has since become a Fellow and Board member of the ILA. Her work has appeared in the Journal of Business Ethics, Organization, Organizational Dynamics, Leadership and Culture, and Organization. Suze’s books are Thinking Differently About Leadership (2016), Revitalizing Leadership (2018), written in collaboration with Stephen Cummings, Brad Jackson, and Sarah Proctor-Thomson, and After Leadership, which she edited in collaboration with Brigid Carroll and Josh Firth. She is also editor of the Routledge Critical Companion to Leadership Studies along with David Knights, Owain Smolovic-Jones, and Helena Liu. She is an Associate Editor of the journal Leadership and also writes public commentary for The Conversation. Before entering academia, Suze held a range of senior leadership roles in several government agencies, the New Zealand postal service, a trade union, and the student union movement.
October 29, 2025
Referenced In This Episode:
- Letters From An American – Heather Cox Richardson
- Thinking Differently About Leadership, by Suze Wilson, PhD
- A Different Kind of Power: A Memoir, by Jacinda Ardern
