DD#43 – The Queen & The Pyramid (Bonus convo w/ Adi Goren)

"But when the economy is based on many women who are willing to do it for nothing, that becomes standard... And if I'm going to invest my energy, I want to get an income from it."  - Adi Gorendd #43 - The Queen & The Pyramid: Behind The Scenes of 'the Org' Economy - Bonus Convo w/ Adi GorenAs promised on the main feed (see Ep.72), it's a one-hour Deconstructing Dogma bonus follow-up with Adi Goren! Tracy & I recently sat down with Adi...

DD#40 – The Early Years & The Rising Pyramid @ ‘the Org’ w/ Anita Stark – Part 1 of 2

"And yet suddenly it was like, no, this is what we're going to do. You're going to move, and I'm going to be the voice. And maybe her intentions were pure, but it didn't come out that way.... I agreed to it, because I could begin to feel this rising pyramid."  - Anita Starkdd #40 - The Early Years & The Rising Pyramid @ 'the Org' w/ Anita Stark - Part 1 of 2This week and next, former Org teacher and trainer, Anita Stark, joins us from her...

Ep.58 – Enough Already: Marketing, Manipulation, & An MLM Escape Plan | Jennifer Rajala – Part 2

In part two with former MLM Coach, Jennifer Rajala, she shares her struggle to sustain top-tier status at Arbonne. In 2020, despite being investigated by the FTC, dozens of MLMs chose to leverage vulnerability and ramp up recruitment during a global pandemic, and Jennifer tells us why this didn't sit well with her. She also shares how the body-shaming culture at Arbonne impacted her personally, and why she decided to join the inner circle at...

Ep.57 – The MLM Mindset: A Former MLM Coach & Top-Tier Earner Blows The Whistle | Jennifer Rajala – Part 1

Jennifer Rajala’s TikTok page reads: “For 8 years I was deep in two MLM CULTs. I got people in, now I help them GTFO.” In part one of a two-parter, former MLM Coach, Jennifer Rajala, sits down with Candice to share her story. When Jennifer was pregnant with her second child, she left behind a career in social work to join the world of multi-level marketing. After a few years of high-minded hustle, she became a top-tier earner and was...

Ep.41 – dō(n)TERRA: MLM ‘Cult’ure & ‘Wellness’ Red Flags | Jamie Smith

Candice welcomes friend and activist Jamie Smith to the podcast for an illuminating discussion on the ‘cult’ure of MLM. Jamie spent four years as a sales rep with dōTERRA, a multi-level marketing company known for its high-end essential oils. She shares when she became involved in the company - while battling postpartum depression and shortly after the death of her father - as well as what drew her into work as a distributor. As a health...