dd #32 - Lost Years, Honest Expression, & A Call To Action | Jill Pagano - Part 2 of 2"Education is definitely the start of it. For not only the people who are using these manipulative tools. If they're really earnest about doing things well, they'll be open to learning how to undo it." - Jill PaganoWe are back with the second half of our two-part conversation with Jill Pagano. If you missed Part 1, be sure to start there. In Part 2, her...
I have more to say on the heels of yesterday's post, because I'm receiving more questions - mostly from folks who are new to the 'cult'ure series... asking me, but WHY is the cult label even necessary? As I said yesterday, I agree that labeling can be a distraction and stand committed to keeping the focus on accountability. AND ALSO.... When is the onus no longer on victims to protect those who cause harm from feeling defensive and upset by the...
My choice to use the word 'CULT' scares some people away from the work I do on & off the pod. So why do I continue to use it? Because it's the right word. For years, when I was involved in wellness 'cult'ures where shady shit was going down... I would on occasion, google the word 'cult' and scan the clickbait criteria, my heart pounding all the while. I was desperately on the hunt for ANY evidence to assuage my anxiety. I'd breeze past many...
dd #31 | 'Org' Training 'Cult'ure: Deconstructing The Damage w/ Jill Pagano - Part 1 of 2" hey can just stop brushing it off, because you have intelligent, articulate, emotionally educated women - and a few men of course - that are saying... I'm dissociated from my body... I'm feeling all this shame. I still have it 15 years later... you can't tell me that it's nothing." - Jill PaganoJill Pagano joins Tracy & I for a two-part deconstruction...
Here's another sneak peek at what’s been happening over on Patreon in the ongoing deconstructing dogma series. Every week, Candice sits down with friends and former colleagues to critically examine undue influence and culty indoctrination in the wellness world, and there are now 30+ bonus episodes available to all patrons of the pod. This episode features some of the best moments from recent releases. Excerpts include: Sample cuts...
dd #30 | Razzle Dazzle & Red Flags @ 'Org' HQ w/ Valerie Branch"We still have the connection with each other. No matter if we are 'in' or 'out.' It transcends." - Valerie BranchValerie Branch & I worked together at 'Org' HQ for two years. We left at around the same time and our friendship has stood the test of time, so I recently invited her to sit down for a peek back at her time working for the Org.In this conversation, Valerie shares:...
CW: This episode features reference to emotional abuse and coercion. This week, we pick up where we left off in a two-part conversation with former ‘Org’ trainer, Shannon Geltner. The episode opens with Shannon & Tracy deep breathing through their emotional triggers to offer us a peek inside of yet-another disturbing trainer training - and a group sharing ‘exercise’ that has cult-vibes written all over it. Shannon shares how it felt...
It's been a very wild week and so first things first... I want to offer a self-care reminder to everyone there. Please take care of your mental health. There is a sudden groundswell surrounding this work, and emotions are high for many. The stories shared on this pod are triggering to some. The community support that we offer is *not* meant to be used as a substitute for help from a skilled trauma-informed therapist. If you feel a sense of...
This week's episode was originally recorded for Patreon, but it felt destined for the main feed. This week and next, patrons of the pod will have exclusive access to the entire two-part main feed conversation ON VIDEO - in addition to being able to listen as usual on podcast streaming apps.Watch via the link below - or listen on the main feed - as Tracy & I sit down with former Org trainer and brave truth teller, Shannon Geltner. This convo...
The series continues with a peek inside ‘Org’ training ‘cult’ure. Candice opens the episode with a longer than usual intro, sharing details about the Org training hierarchy for the first time as a lead-in to the first half of a two-part convo; one that was originally intended for Patreon but was, in turns out, 'destined' for the main feed. Shannon Geltner was affiliated with the Org for 14 years, progressing through the ranks to become...
